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« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2010, 03:57:06 AM »

Ah k9k, if you look at the posts you made when you first joined and compare them to ones you make now, you will see a huge improvement. Have you critted yourself lately? Smiley

I feel like I've plateaued. That combined with getting kicked back down every time I try to get up lately, I find myself reading more and writing less. I might just turn into "Editor the Grim" after all.


I have? Really? I haven't done critiqued myself because it makes me cringe and wince at it.

As for yourself, seek inspiration from sources you rarely engage in. Familiarity breeds contempt.
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« Reply #61 on: March 29, 2011, 07:47:53 PM »

This isn't really about me, but there wasn't any other existing thread to deal with trifles like this.

Courtesy of Neil Gaiman, a funny/tragic example of what you should not do if you ever have dreams of becoming a writer. Classic!
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« Reply #62 on: March 29, 2011, 08:19:50 PM »

Jeez, and here I've been convinced by people like MCA Hogarth that self-publishing is no longer a gutter activity. This sure contradicts that notion pretty effectively.

Unfortunately, I'm also convinced that traditional publishing is going downhill so fast that it's practically a closed door to everyone.
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« Reply #63 on: March 29, 2011, 08:28:43 PM »

And this, children, is exactly why you don't start out self-publishing. A publisher would never have accepted something like this. Trying to get published as a form of self-validation is stupid and shallow.
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« Reply #64 on: March 29, 2011, 08:55:28 PM »

I just love how she goes, "Oh, so you say I'm worth only two stars? WELL THEN, how did I get this review? Or this? Or this one that gives me five f*king stars, eh? Eh?"

@Altivo: Nathan Bransford has a whole slew of articles about self- vs. traditional publishing on his blog and he covers that ground pretty thoroughly. You might find his views interesting. Here's one of those articles, and an eloquently written piece from last year on how the rejection letter of the future will be silence.
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« Reply #65 on: March 30, 2011, 12:22:43 AM »

Alflor: I don't think this is reason to not start out self-publishing, but I do think it's a great demonstrate of A) the importance of MULTIPLE proofreading and editing read-throughs of your story and B) How NOT to respond to reviews that don't go your way. Yeah, you can pretty much kiss her writing career goodbye.

Now me, if I was reading a review like that, my first response would've been, "Damn, they caught all those mistakes? I'd better fix those next time." Cos that's just how we improve, folks. It's a shame that author didn't have a little more common sense about posting those kinds of comments to a publicly-viewable blog
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« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2011, 12:47:13 AM »

I suspect this won't stop her writing and self-publishing. She may eventually do it under another name. It clearly won't keep a sharp reader from recognizing her either, because she obviously can't see the errors in her grammar and syntax that are being criticized. Consequently, she'll keep making those.

As a librarian, I've seen a lot of poorly written self-published stuff, as well as some good material. And I've seen some really badly-written stuff that made it through the traditional paper publishing gauntlet without being fixed, which is much more puzzling to me. Of course, you see that in the cheap pulp stuff, like the fifty cent Harlequin romances, because both publisher and writer treat them as "throwaways". But large books that went through the traditional path at a large house (like Stephenie Meyer's vampire stuff) and still have typos and errors, I dunno. Those seem to be the proof that the old ways have already died off.

Certainly the newspapers I see just don't measure up to the quality they once had.
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« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2011, 12:55:35 AM »

It's a darn shame, too. It almost feels like language is devolving as fast as we invent new technology. XP
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« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2011, 01:00:49 AM »

@Altivo Well, the reason Twilight made it through was because the intended audience is thirteen year-old girls. Since they probably won't notice the typos, who cares, right? Wrong. Unfortunately, much like the dimestore novels you mentioned, that's how it is treated.
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« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2011, 01:40:55 AM »

After talking to people who actually liked twilight, the majority of them I found to be A. 13 and female, or at the equivalent romantic maturity level. B. Has not read any serious literature before twilight. C. Are generally the type of people who write/read the bad fan fics.

I mean, lets face it, twilight is a fanfic a la mormon. A sparkly virgin vampire boy doesn't have sex until he marries some homely high school chick.
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« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2011, 01:43:52 AM »

After talking to people who actually liked twilight, the majority of them I found to be A. 13 and female, or at the equivalent romantic maturity level. B. Has not read any serious literature before twilight. C. Are generally the type of people who write/read the bad fan fics.

I mean, lets face it, twilight is a fanfic a la mormon. A sparkly virgin vampire boy doesn't have sex until he marries some homely high school chick.
Yuup! However, that turns some people on. And much like with bad furry porn, when people are turned on, a lot of them will ignore any and all errors in the text.
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« Reply #71 on: July 08, 2012, 08:18:42 AM »

Thread revival time! Let's here about the current projects everybody's got going on!

I just recently (as in 10 minutes ago) threw together an outline for a sci-fi military romance... thing... >_>

It's set in a distant future, long after humanity has destroyed itself with a series of brutal wars. Furry species evolved afterwards, later having developed effective space travel and settled on Mars and Earth. Venus is next, with vital resources in abundance, which leads to past conflicts between the two planets coming back to haunt them. Our two heroes are a Staff Sergeant in the Earth military and a newly enlisted Private in the Mars military, both former classmates on Earth before one of them was forced to move. They have feelings for each other but it's forced into the background when Mars sends a surprise attack to Earth and the Earth declares war in response. The two soldiers try to keep each other alive and themselves out of trouble, but when their acts get many of their fellow soldiers killed, they try instead to bring about a peaceful end to the war before history is repeated.

I'm struggling with balancing the science fiction, military thriller, and romance drama aspects of the story while trying to avoid the two lead characters from being too stereotypical. Otherwise, I'm liking the premise so far. Will definitely have to keep chipping away at this one. Time for some character development!
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« Reply #72 on: July 09, 2012, 11:24:14 AM »

So your furries are, what, building on the foundations of a dead human world? Or coexisting, or are the majority to the human minority?

I'm working on a couple of stories right now. None of them are really upbeat, but what can you do?

Anyway. Number one is about a zombie apocalypse that isn't actually a zombie apocalypse. Just masses of people rising from the dead, fully formed, fully cured; basically plunked back into the point in their life when they were forced to depart. The story follows one guy who died of cancer, was reborn without cancer, and tries to find his way back to his family amid a society conditioned to fear or forget the dead. It is not furry.

Story number two *is* furry, and is about a failed-artist-turned-engineer and his cat-person friend who is a painter. Cat-person friend is the only painter in an entire nation of cat-people, thanks to a rare mutation that gave him full color vision. Engineer-person has always begrudged him his success - very discreetly - so when cat-friend comes to him with the momentous reveal! that he actually does not love painting, engineer-person uses the opportunity to "get back" for leading the life he was never able to live.

I have little snippets of both stories written out; the real problem is just stitching them together.
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« Reply #73 on: July 09, 2012, 01:07:03 PM »

Well, for me… I’m still stuck with the same old projects, rehashing and retooling them, and struggling to break the 2,000-word barrier on all three of them.
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« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2012, 02:54:24 PM »

The furries in my story evolved long after humanity is extinct and gone. Enough of human civilization remained to allow the furry population to study its history, but otherwise only ruins remain.
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