FurRag forums
June 29, 2017, 09:07:14 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5
  Print  
Author Topic: Authors Deserving Attention  (Read 10262 times)
poisonpen
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 47


View Profile
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2013, 04:56:44 PM »

I'm sorry that you don't seem to get much feedback from SF.  I haven't read your stuff (I don't have much time to read as much since I started writing myself) so I can't comment on your stories.  I know that when I post a story on SoFurry that I will spend AT LEAST that evening and the next evening just answering comments.  I've had no meaningful conversations about my writing since I've been on this site, well unless you consider the abusive critique that I got from one of the dreaded Red Pen Wielders.  This site was recommended to me by some of my readers on SF and I came here to see what it was like, and I have been disappointed from the get go.  If you are not part of the clique here at best you get ignored.  On the other hand on SoFurry I have quite a few of my readers that have become real on line friends.  One has even become my Mate/Boy Friend from being a fan of my writing. 

Pretty dead, ya think?  Although I have taken this dead topic with one post and turned it into a “Hot Topic” which is probably the most traffic this forum has had in well over a year.  *pats self on back while smirking*
Logged
Altivo
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1126


Wandering about distractedly...


View Profile WWW
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2013, 05:39:35 PM »

There's nothing wrong with your writing that I could see, Sasya. I stopped reading because of my preferences in subject matter and limited time available, but that has nothing to do with the quality of the writing itself. Nor, as far as I can tell, would it make much difference to a wider audience. If anything, it should be popular I'd say.
Logged

-
“Don't be seduced into thinking that that which does not make a profit is without value.” ― Arthur Miller
Erkhyan
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 752



View Profile WWW
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2013, 10:40:38 AM »

I’ve never seen someone complain so much about not being able to integrate a clique, while at the same time introducing themselves to everyone in the clique by insulting them and throwing accusations at them, going to the point of pushing other newcomers away where none of them had any problems before.

I really have no idea what happened with you, poisonpen, and I’m starting not to care. You had a problem with one member of the site, and you decided to take it out on the rest of us, including those who started off neutral or even tried to be friendly. You don’t gather friends or allies by biting and kicking everyone around.

Oh, and for your accusation that I’m an "overlord"… I’ll have you check again. I’m no moderator, no administrator, my only label comes from a private critique group I ended up not taking part with. The only distinction I could claim is being a long-time regular user who managed not to start wars with regulars and newcomers alike, i.e. I considered everyone as part of the "clique" to begin with, found joy when newcomers became regulars, felt disappointment when they didn’t, and felt sadness when regulars stopped being regulars (and I still remember most of these).

Again, sorry if you feel like you’re being left out of the clique, but my introduction to you was you flinging hostility and accusations around, some of which I ended up catching when I tried to defuse the situation through discussion. I’ll be the first to admit that based on that first impression, I’m not quite surprised you didn’t get to become part of the clique.
Logged

poisonpen
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 47


View Profile
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2013, 02:27:18 AM »

Whatever made you think I am complaining about wanting to be part of a clique?  I personally don't care for cliques, and that is as a member or as an outsider.  As for introducing myself to everyone in the clique by insulting them and throwing accusations, I introduced myself over 3 years ago and have been posting stories ever since.  For the first 3 years I was on here I didn't insult anyone or throw accusations around and where did it get me?  I was ignored which didn't really bother me and then had my intelligence and character assaulted in an attack review on the very first chapter of a fiction story that I had ever written. 

By a reviewer (a Red Pen Wielder like yourself, I believe that this was during the time period when your little private critique group or clique was in full swing) that cherry picked the worst story chapter I have posted on here.  Before he even gets started on the story he chides me for rating it “Mature” instead of “Erotic”.  Now I looked around for a criteria before I posted on what happens to constitute “Mature” and what constitutes “Erotic” before I posted on this site and I still haven't found it.  But this Ass Clown followed it up later in the review with “please rate your story correctly! Otherwise nice people will have to correct it for you, until they lose their niceness, and, well.”  Which really made the point to me that this site is sorely lacking in “nice people” and it has been reaffirmed time and time again in my dealings with them.  I guess that is unless you are part of the “Clique”

He then followed it up with, “Your piece is technically competent, but not much else.”  Which is essentially a rude way of saying “your writing is a piece of shit”.  Talk about a tactless little douchbag, but that was how I was introduced to your “Red Pen Wielders Clique.”

From there the condescending little Shithead had the nerve to tell me that I needed to expand my vocabulary.  Well I've got an IQ in the 150 range and my GRE score puts my vocabulary in the 92 percentile of people going for their Masters and PhDs, so I hardly think my vocabulary is lacking.  If he would have had the nerve to tell that to my face this former Marine would have beaten the shit out of him even at my advanced age.  But you Red Pen Wielders are so brave behind your computers and anonymity.

Then he goes on to tell me how “plain” my story is and what a terrible writer I am.  If this story chapter hadn't done so well on SoFurry or if I was someone with less confidence it probably would have made me quit writing.  Fortunately for me on SoFurry the 8 chapters of this story series have accumulated 41,116 views and 276 favorites. 

The very few valid points he had, which were few and far between, had already been corrected on subsequent works that were already posted here.  If he was really interested in helping me instead of putting me down he would have chosen a more recent work rather than the first chapter of the first story I had ever written.  And even with that, other than writing a scathing response to his review that eviscerated him, until just recently I had not as you say insulted or accused anyone of anything.  And even then I at first only attacked him until all of you Red Pen Wielders and Administrators and Global Moderators came to his defense.  But like I said you guys in the clique defend each other regardless of the circumstances.

That said each of my replies to long silent forum threads started out as a serious comment questioning how and why things are the way they are around here.  This site has real problems, it is pretty much just an archive now.  I asked serious questions and you Red Pen Wielders tried to shoot the messenger, so of course I defended myself. 

Please don't be so condescending Erkhyan you never cared, so don't claim you're "Starting not to care."  I've been a quiet nice guy on this site for 3 years, so much so that I'm sure you had no idea I have been a member posting stories for over 3 years.  If you had you wouldn't be getting your "first impression" of me after I had been on here for 3 years. 

As far as your comment “I’ll be the first to admit that based on that first impression, I’m not quite surprised you didn’t get to become part of the clique.”  I treat people the way they deserve to be treated.  On SoFurry I am one of the more open and cordial writers and I answer every comment that comes my way courteously.  We have tons of fun on my comment sections, which in addition to serious discussion of the stories also has much back and forth banter and is liberally sprinkled with humor (one of the things which is nearly nonexistent on this site where everyone takes themselves so seriously and has such an over blown sense of self importance).

Also in regard to your statement, “I considered everyone as part of the "clique" to begin with, found joy when newcomers became regulars, felt disappointment when they didn’t, and felt sadness when regulars stopped being regulars (and I still remember most of these).”  My guess it that on this site you have felt a lot more disappointment and sadness than joy.  There don't seem to be many regulars left on this site, but then given how people are treated here that is not surprising.
Logged
Erkhyan
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 752



View Profile WWW
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2013, 12:32:56 PM »

Okay, so you had a disagreeable run-in with a member of a group, who acted outside of the scope of a group, without telling anyone else in the group, and so you almost instantly upgraded your bad opinion to the whole group, if not the whole site. That’s good to know. Never mind that, again, the rules of the group included things like “let the other members know about the story first” and “no needlessly rude critique”. Never mind that the group barely (never?) had time to fulfill its actual mission before it was disbanded. Never mind that it never went past the planning stages when it was hosted on this site. Never mind that the “Red Pen Wielders” label was the only trace left of it for months if not years, until you raised such a ruckus about it that we quickly upgraded it from “meaningless label we don’t care about” to “actually a nuisance we’d better get rid of”.

Oh, and you’re kinda right: I noticed your name in the list of authors before, but never checked your stories. I only started noticing you when you became involved in the forums, because that’s mostly why I’m here. I already said it: I’m not really a reviewer (I didn’t even get to contribute to the private critique group while it was active), only a reader. I’m mostly interested in the discussions people can have besides reviewing, which is why you’ll notice that most of my posts were in the Barrag thread. I do care about most people who post on the forums. I even do my best to remember the names and personalities of whoever wrote more than half a dozen posts. I even kept contact with several people who left the site before, though I notice that none ever left because of the way they were treated here (unless it was behind-the-scenes stuff I was left out of): several left when the site was threatened with closure (which was conveniently when SoFurry was launched), others left when they realized they wouldn’t get thousands of views and hundreds of comments here (you keep mentioning your numbers from SoFurry, I guess several people did the same in their heads), others left due to circumstances unrelated to the site (I’m waving at Fictious and C_S here).

No, none of the regulars were ever treated badly (again, unless it was private stuff that the rest of us wouldn’t be aware of). Yes, I felt sadness, but I did mention that I’m still friendly (or at least, non-hostile acquaintances) with several people who left before.

And you mentioned anonymity, right? Well, I keep being told that I’m very careless with my identity online, so let’s go.

My name is Franck Rabeson, born, raised and living in Anosizato, Antananarivo, Madagascar. I’m one quarter French, one sixteenth Gujarati, and the rest of me is Merina Malagasy. I’m a translator by trade, though I used to work as a graphics designer for four years before. French and Merina Malagasy are my mother tongues, though I picked up enough English through the years to actually feel more comfortable writing in it than in both my mother tongues. When I was in school, I also got congratulations for getting a relatively good grades in Spanish despite the fact that my classmates studied it in six years, and while I did it in three (I love languages, what can I say?). I even got an almost perfect grade in English for my baccalauréat, the only higher grade I got was in Maths. Is that enough information? If not, you can head to my deviantART account and actually get my house’s precise geographical coordinates from the signature I use there. Let it be said that I actually hate it when people say that my opinions only exist because I don’t dare sign them by my own name.
Logged

Altivo
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1126


Wandering about distractedly...


View Profile WWW
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2013, 02:00:02 PM »

Erkhyan is correct. Despite your repeated accusations, none of the currently active "clique" as you choose to call it have ever given any "bad reviews" or offered anything more than constructive criticism. The "Red Pen Wielder" thing (which was a title selected rather against my suggestions) was part of an experiment that never really went anywhere. We eliminated the references since you were so abrasive about it.

None of us is "hiding behind anonymity" either. All you have to do is ask Google to find my legal name and probably my residence address and current employer. My technical publications are all entered under my legal name or the name of the employer current at the time of writing, and as such are probably of little interest to a furry audience. Consequently I have used Altivo Overo as a furry pseudonym, and that's a name by which I was known in furry circles online for a number of years before I published anything.

I won't go into academic qualifications or work experience here because I suspect you'll just call it "snobbery." I'll just say that I have many years of experience as a librarian, an educator, and in computer-related occupations. I have not ever given a "bad review" on Furrag, and though I make my preferences in fiction clear I don't try to enforce them on anyone. If anything was ever censored here, it was before my time as a moderator. That would have to be in a time period covering a year or two back around 2008 or earlier when I wasn't privy to all the actions taken by administrators of this system.

The only things we have deleted either from the main fiction site or these forums have been obvious and off-topic commercial spam. As Erkyhan and Jacky have pointed out repeatedly, you had a negative experience with an individual who is no longer active here, and who acted only on his own behalf and not as any kind of official representative. Projecting your negativity onto all of us is inappropriate, and I don't understand why you are making such an issue of it now, years after the fact.
Logged

-
“Don't be seduced into thinking that that which does not make a profit is without value.” ― Arthur Miller
poisonpen
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 47


View Profile
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2013, 05:31:59 PM »

This is in response to Erkhyan

No I didn't instantly upgrade my “bad opinion” to the whole group.  I waited about 2 years to do that.  It wasn't until I noticed that time after time Moderators and Red Pen Wielders defended the little douchbag that I upgraded my “bad opinion” to the whole group.  I have no idea what all your criteria and protocols were for your little group and whether or not Reiter followed them.  I do know that I have 23 story posts here and none of the other Red Pen Wielders has bothered to give me a critique on them (again not that I'm complaining, one critique by a Red Pen Wielder is one too many).  I have had 6 other one to two sentence “reviews” (3 of them by the same reader) all of them positive and all of them by readers that have been on here a year or less.  So if you ask me why I stay if I hate it so much it's because there are actually some nice people on here that enjoy my writing, they just don't happen to be in the power structure here.  I also no longer post new chapters to my 3 series here, if people like them and want to follow them further they can make a SoFurry account and read them there.

I guess you didn't even notice me there until recently.  I guess you weren't on the thread when they all had such glowing things to say about the little twerp (I'm running out of things to call him without breaking into *&&^$%#@).

As far as mentioning my numbers from SoFurry it was mainly to show how ridiculous and mean-spirited Reiter's contention that my story had absolutely no redeeming qualities about it.  If it was totally worthless it wouldn't have gotten that many views and favorites.  Those are pretty high numbers even for a site like SF.

How do you know they weren't treated badly behind-the-scenes?  The dirtbag and I went at it hot and heavy behind-the-scenes in private e-mail until he decided to hack and hijack my e-mail account.  But Jacky insists that I am lying about this, another case Red Pen Wielders or should I say the “clique formerly known as Red Pen Wielders” of blindly sticking up for each other.

Seems I've hit a nerve here.  LOL  As far as posting your own name here, that's a huge mistake.  You don't have anything to fear from me but as I said I've already had one e-mail account hijacked by a dirtbag on this site.  I'm sure if Reiter would have had my real name he would have already drained my bank account.  Actually my point was that Reiter wouldn't have had the balls to say what he said to my face, well at least without that face ending up bloody.  And since you claim that you haven't posted any critiques (and I have no reason to doubt that you are being truthful) this really may not pertain to you, but it's real easy to talk big and tell someone their writing is COMPLETELY without merit when you are locked in your mother's basement typing on your computer.
Logged
poisonpen
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 47


View Profile
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2013, 05:35:34 PM »

This is in response to Altivo

I have no idea what kind of reviews the “currently active “Clique”” has given, I only know of the one I received.  You should have pushed harder to have them not use the “Red Pen Wielder” title.  First it is incredibly sophomoric, my “poisonpen” was a response to point it out by being just as sophomoric.  My guess is it also gave them a feeling of entitlement and empowerment to go out and be abusive.  And yes I noticed that you had eliminated it and I have already gloated over my victory!  LOL

And no I would never consider achievement and qualifications to be snobbery.  What I do consider snobbery is to use your position to try to influence people from trying to write what is in their hearts. I never said that there was direct censorship on this site.  There are indirect ways of censoring things on a site, such as an Administrator stating that there is never any reason for a writer to use sex in a story, or that no writers that achieve long term success ever use sex in their writing.  The title carries weight and when things like that are said by someone in a position of power it throws a dampening effect on creativity.  Maybe I'm a little touchy when it comes to people who throw cold water on creativity. The creative writing instructors that I had in my freshman classes in college did just that. All the way to the point that I never wrote any fiction for 30 years.  And there are more than a few here that give me that same vibe.  And that is outside of “he who must not be named” who I have had my issues with.

I just think that people writing about things that interest them or that they have a passion for is what eventually will make them into good writers.  If that included writing things with erotic content then that's what they should write.  Maybe after they get it out of their system and still have a passion for creative writing then they will write something more to your liking.

I have never claimed you have deleted anything from this site, all I have claimed is that the attitude about Erotica has turned those that write it into second class citizens on this site.  

And as I have pointed out repeatedly, I let that review go until I relatively recently noticed the Anthropomorphic Writers and Readers Foundation on FA (on one of the rare occasions I checked my account there) and noticed that Reiter was a moderator or some such authority.  I also notice a thread about it in the forums here on FurRag.  When I pointed out a few things the rest of the “Clique” of course rallied around their comrade in arms.  If I took that to mean that they are all like minded people then I don't know how I can be blamed for that.

But you are wrong when you claim he “acted only on his own behalf and not as any kind of official representative”. He was given a title of Red Pen Wielder as sanctioned by this site which would appear to give him standing as an official representative of this site.  And as such it would seem that the site has some responsibility to see that those rules are followed.  

And when it was pointed out that he abused this “authority” it seems all of his fellow “Red Pen Wielders” came out to back him up.  That's where my beef lies.  
« Last Edit: May 27, 2013, 11:29:01 PM by poisonpen » Logged
Erkhyan
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 752



View Profile WWW
« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2013, 06:57:17 PM »

You say you don’t know the rules of the critique group. Well, I already gave you the ones that were pertinent to outsiders. The rest were stuff about the number of reviews and critiques one had to write to remain in the group. Nothing more, nothing less than that.

Oh, and the whole Red Pen Wielders thing? It was never a title to begin with. It was just because we needed to create a group to let the forum know who could access the section of the forum dedicated to the private group. It was a technical thing. Adding a label to the profiles of the group’s members was just a way for us to recognize each other as members of said group. You keep assuming that the group was endorsed by the site, rather than merely hosted. There was never any penalty assigned for not being a member of the group, no privilege or authority given for being a member (except for a label in our profiles and access to the private forum), no big change to the site’s functions when the group was started, no big changes when it became inactive, and still no big change when your continuous complaints finally pushed us to delete it (which, I assure you, is almost as worthy of gloating as getting someone to get finally rid of old cobweb-covered furniture forgotten in the attic). You can’t blame FurRag for hosting the Red Pen Wielders any more than you’d blame Fur Affinity or SoFurry for hosting the dozens of groups that exist on both sites.

Another bit of honesty: I didn’t even know until your last two posts that your problems were with Reiter. I suspected, but didn’t know, because I guess you assumed that we all communicate behind the scenes and know everything about everyone. My first interaction with you came after you launched what I considered an undeserved verbal attack on Altivo for holding a set of opinions that conflicted with your own. Will you blame me for defending someone I’ve interacted with for years, whom I’ve never witnessed treating anyone unfairly? I felt you were attacking him for holding the title of forum administrator, when all his title entails is keeping the site technically up and running, and kicking out the occasional spambot. He never had the authority to enforce his views, no more than the rest of us have, but he has every right to make them known. That is why I defended Altivo… and that is why I’ll ask you to re-read my posts again and tell me where I could have been defending Reiter blindly. Even the part where you say the other members heaped blind praise on him sounds to me more like people trying to diplomatically tell you that our interactions with him were friendly enough (or at least, not hostile) and that we had no idea what you were going on about because most of us were out of the loop about your problems.

Lastly, my identity has been pretty open for the eight years I’ve been active online. Mistake or not, I stand by my principle that my pen name and online handles are supposed to be only alternative names I’d like to be known as, and not an anonymous screen to hide behind.
Logged

poisonpen
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 47


View Profile
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2013, 10:11:18 PM »

In response to Erkhyan

It seems like Reiter never bothered to follow any of those rules and your group obviously didn't police itself.

I guess I see things differently.  When the site gives you a “title” right underneath your screen name it is endorsing it.  My guess is if something like that were to go to a court of law the court would consider that an endorsement.  It gives the members so titled gravitas and de facto prestige.  What makes it seem even more like a title is that it is placed exactly where Moderator and Administrator are placed. Most of us newbies and other members that are not members of the RPW would have no reason to know that it is not a title and members could and did try to use it to intimidate us Newbies (well at least one did).  Fortunately I don't intimidate easily and I told him to shove it up his ass.

As far as my gloating, losing your “title” may not be a big thing to you, but I'm sure it is a major blow to some of your brothers-in-arms.  LOL

My guess is you never knew my problem was with Reiter since you weren't on the particular thread where I came out after him, the one where everyone stuck up for him.  I mentioned him in a response to Jacky since he knew exactly who I was talking about and seems somewhat of a Butt Buddy with Reiter.  Since everyone seemed to think Reiter was a saint I figured it was mostly counterproductive mentioning his hallowed name.

I guess that I didn't consider my “attack” on Altivo undeserved, I considered it a counterattack.  When he wrote: “Very, very few of the writers who continue to garner respect years after their work appears in public are writers of erotica. In fact, the only ones that come to mind are noted for writing subliminal erotica or stories in which the erotic content is based on innuendo, inference, and things that take place behind the scenes.

That said, no, we have no ban on erotic content as such. But don't ask me personally to review it unless you want to feel teeth.”


I look at that and see it as a direct attack on anyone who writes sex scenes and therefore an indirect attack on me.  Basically he is saying that anyone who writes sex scenes will never amount to a hill of beans.  I find that highly offensive.  And his statement about biting if he was asked to personally review it came much too close to the attitude of Reiter to just let it slide by without comment.

Again, and I have repeated this several times, I don't care if he doesn't prefer to read Erotica, that is his prerogative but I feel he has absolutely no right to tell others not to write it.  Especially when he has Administrator emblazoned under his name.  If he wants to say that he refuses to read or review any erotica I have no problem with that, it's when he says that I or others shouldn't write it then that goes from being an opinion to a directive.  It seems we happen to be stuck on a matter of semantics.

I never said you defended Reiter, you weren't on that particular thread.  There were plenty of others there that genuflected before St. Reiter.  But all of you have come to each others aid on this thread. Still I think you need to gather up a few more of the members formerly known as Red Pen Wielders to take on a newbie.  Especially one with poison in his pen.  Poison > Red Ink...  LOL
« Last Edit: May 27, 2013, 11:38:27 PM by poisonpen » Logged
Jacky
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 178


Dabbler


View Profile
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2013, 10:51:27 PM »

*sigh* Not one of us has defended Reiter. I certainly didn't, and wouldn't. I even told you the review he wrote was bad. I dunno why I'm typing this really; I said it all in my first post. You're still mad at him but you can't get at him (because he's probably ignoring you), so you come here instead, inventing reasons to stir up trouble because for some reason you're still unable to control your anger at receiving one dumb review three years ago. If it bothers you that much, well...maybe you should ask yourself why.
Logged
poisonpen
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 47


View Profile
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2013, 01:32:58 AM »

I loved the BIG dramatic sigh.  It's classic and oh so stereotypical.  LOL 

Actually you have defended him and continue to in this post.  You are doing it when you state "You're still mad at him but you can't get at him (because he's probably ignoring you)".   Actually I'm the one that is ignoring him, I stopped contacting him when he hijacked my account.  We went back and forth trading insults until then.  He sure as hell didn't ignore me.  I even posted part of one of his e-mails on one of the posts on this forum.  He actually had the last word.  I usually don't let anyone have the last word, but when he fucked with my e-mail account that I use for SoFurry (and also Furrag but that didn't weigh much on my mind) I decided it just wasn't worth it.  I mean that is my link to a REAL furry site, one that actually has more than 7 active members.  I need the feedback I get on my stories on SoFurry plus I need to keep in contact with all my friends and fans, (I found it amusing that one of my readers actually started a fan club) so I couldn't have that happening again.  I'm surprised your Butt Buddy didn't tell you that he got the last word in one of your pillow talk sessions.  Although it seems there is a lot more that you don't know about him than you think.

Yes you even told me "the review he wrote was bad", but then you went and told Gallowsglass that it was just a review that didn't kiss my ass.  Those are two VERY different things.  And why did you have to go and attack me there. I was only confirming what he already observed about the forums, although I did put a little humor in it.  I keep forgetting that humor is forbidden here too.  You're the one that brought up the bad review there, I didn't until I had to defend myself.  In fact it seems that in all the threads that you are always the first one to bring it up.   

In the this thread you were the first to bring it up (http://forum.furrag.com/index.php/topic,938.0.html).  We had been no where near that topic until you posted, "I don't know what you think you'll achieve by being unreasonable and attacking people personally. If you don't like it, why are you here? It was so long ago that you got a bad review on your work by one person who doesn't even come here any more, and you're still butthurt? Move on."  So it seems like if anyone is fixated on that review it appears to be you.  LOL

Yes I am still mad at him. I'm Italian, for us holding grudges is a birthright and an art form, but that actually has nothing to do with any of the original posts I've made.  You're the one that keeps re-introducing it.  None of my posts started out having anything to do with "he who must not be named".  I made legitimate posts on here until all of you RPWs, well at least the few that still actually check the forums, got all butt hurt that someone isn't towing the company line.  I can't help it if this site has so many shortcomings.  All the rest of you have your heads up your ass and won't admit there are serious problems with this dying site.

And as far as me being "unable to control your anger at receiving one dumb review three years ago", I have not said one thing out of anger.  LOL  How can I possibly be angry when I'm having so much fun!  They should turn tweaking pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs into an Olympic sport or at least a made for TV event.  Maybe I could bring home the gold... 

PS Just looking at your avatar, you definitely look the part of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs Wink
Logged
Jacky
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 178


Dabbler


View Profile
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2013, 08:16:59 AM »

Actually you have defended him and continue to in this post.  You are doing it when you state "You're still mad at him but you can't get at him (because he's probably ignoring you)".

How is that me defending him? What kind of logic exists on your planet? I actually really dislike the guy. Believe me, I wouldn't defend him. But telling you that is like banging my head on a brick wall. No matter what evidence I give you, you always come back and assert you're right, so it's kind of pointless.

Actually I'm the one that is ignoring him, I stopped contacting him when he hijacked my account.  We went back and forth trading insults until then.  He sure as hell didn't ignore me.  I even posted part of one of his e-mails on one of the posts on this forum.  He actually had the last word.  I usually don't let anyone have the last word, but when he fucked with my e-mail account that I use for SoFurry (and also Furrag but that didn't weigh much on my mind) I decided it just wasn't worth it. 

Yeah I still don't believe you about this hijacking stuff, but if you have proof I'll gladly admit you're right. And by proof I mean you could show it to Judge Judy - accepting that she wouldn't look at trivial crap like this - and she'd agree that it was him.

Yes you even told me "the review he wrote was bad", but then you went and told Gallowsglass that it was just a review that didn't kiss my ass.  Those are two VERY different things.


Nope. Pretty compatible ideas actually.

And why did you have to go and attack me there. I was only confirming what he already observed about the forums, although I did put a little humor in it.

Because you were badmouthing the site to a new user under the guise of ""humor"" so I told him how it really was.

In the this thread you were the first to bring it up (http://forum.furrag.com/index.php/topic,938.0.html).  We had been no where near that topic until you posted, "I don't know what you think you'll achieve by being unreasonable and attacking people personally. If you don't like it, why are you here? It was so long ago that you got a bad review on your work by one person who doesn't even come here any more, and you're still butthurt? Move on."  So it seems like if anyone is fixated on that review it appears to be you.  LOL

That's the sole reason you're here though LOL

Yes I am still mad at him. I'm Italian, for us holding grudges is a birthright and an art form, but that actually has nothing to do with any of the original posts I've made.

See above.

PS Just looking at your avatar, you definitely look the part of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs Wink

Huh? It's a fox...now you really lost me. Is that fact that he's wearing glasses an indication that I'm pretentious? *sigh* Yep, you really do make me sigh that much.
Logged
poisonpen
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 47


View Profile
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2013, 12:44:49 AM »

This is beginning to get complicated so we have to color code
My original statement
Your response (in red in honor of the Red Pen Wielders
My reply in a nice poisonous green



Actually you have defended him and continue to in this post.  You are doing it when you state "You're still mad at him but you can't get at him (because he's probably ignoring you)".

How is that me defending him? What kind of logic exists on your planet? I actually really dislike the guy. Believe me, I wouldn't defend him. But telling you that is like banging my head on a brick wall. No matter what evidence I give you, you always come back and assert you're right, so it's kind of pointless.

Obviously we live on very different planets, or at least alternate realities.

If you do now actually dislike your former Butt Buddy (although with your responses I truly doubt it) then we have exactly one thing in common.  You have given me no evidence other than insisting you don't defend him.  Yet you keep defending him by insisting that he would take the high road and ignore me.  That IS defending him by any definition of the word. Well I turned the tables on him and REALLY pissed him off.  He likes to show people up but the vindictive little bastard really hates being exposed for the no talent blowhard that he really is.  It was a really interesting pissing match until he resorted to hacking my account. But that's the other way you defend him, over and over and over and over...

Maybe if you keep banging your head against that brick wall it will knock some sense into it.  I doubt it though, I think your head is more solid than any brick wall.  It would probably help if you take your glasses off first, just a little advice since you don't seem terribly bright.  Although maybe on your planet the laws of physics don't apply like they do in our world. Are you sure you don't live in the land of Loony Tunes?



Actually I'm the one that is ignoring him, I stopped contacting him when he hijacked my account.  We went back and forth trading insults until then.  He sure as hell didn't ignore me.  I even posted part of one of his e-mails on one of the posts on this forum.  He actually had the last word.  I usually don't let anyone have the last word, but when he fucked with my e-mail account that I use for SoFurry (and also Furrag but that didn't weigh much on my mind) I decided it just wasn't worth it.

Yeah I still don't believe you about this hijacking stuff, but if you have proof I'll gladly admit you're right. And by proof I mean you could show it to Judge Judy - accepting that she wouldn't look at trivial crap like this - and she'd agree that it was him.

All the proof I need is that he told me he had a surprise for me and when I tried to open my SoFurry/FurRag e-mail account it wouldn't open.  I had to collect all kinds of e-mails from my friends and fans to demonstrate that it was actually my account.  It took over a week.  As far as proving it to Judge Judy, I don't know who that is so I have no idea if it lives up to her standards.  Is she god or something that we need to meet her standards?  I don't have any hacker type friends that I could get to go in and get "evidence" on who hacked my account.  If I would have known that I needed proof to convince you that it happened, I'm sure I would have hired someone no matter what the cost to get enough evidence for your satisfaction.  NOT  

Obviously you feel that he is such a paragon of virtue that he would never stoop to such a heinous thing.  That IS defending him.  I personally think the little parasite would sink to anything he can get away with, and I'm beginning to feel the same about you.
   


Yes you even told me "the review he wrote was bad", but then you went and told Gallowsglass that it was just a review that didn't kiss my ass.  Those are two VERY different things.


Nope. Pretty compatible ideas actually.

I guess that demonstrates your lack of mastery of the English language. Just curious is English a second language to you, if so that would explain your total lack of comprehension.   A review that didn't kiss my ass would suggest a review that didn't go out of it's way to flatter me, in other words it implies a neutral review, not positive nor negative. There was nothing neutral about his review as you have stated in other places on this forum.   But such subtleties are obviously beyond the boundaries of your extremely limited intellect. Probably another reason that you stay here rather than venture out onto one of the REAL furry sites, you don't feel quite so outclassed here.  


And why did you have to go and attack me there. I was only confirming what he already observed about the forums, although I did put a little humor in it.

Because you were badmouthing the site to a new user under the guise of ""humor"" so I told him how it really was.

All I did was verify what he already knew.  I pretty much told him the exact same thing you told him.  But it seems you have as much of a hardon for me as Reiter does.. If I was truly being honest I would have told him if he wanted views and feedback he should post his stories on SoFurry.  That also wouldn't have been "badmouthing the site" it would have been an honest assessment of what he should do to advance his goal of becoming a writer.  Whatever this site may have started out as, it is now basically a story archive with very few active members and almost no meaningful feedback.  And the forum is an even less vibrant place.  There are only about 5 people that still come here: you, Erkhyan, Altivo, Sasya and of course the STAR of the forums, ME *sarcastically takes bow*.  If I wasn't here this place would be completely dead.  I think you, Altivo and Erkhyan have chased away anyone that isn't in lockstep with your views.


In the this thread you were the first to bring it up (http://forum.furrag.com/index.php/topic,938.0.html).  We had been no where near that topic until you posted, "I don't know what you think you'll achieve by being unreasonable and attacking people personally. If you don't like it, why are you here? It was so long ago that you got a bad review on your work by one person who doesn't even come here any more, and you're still butthurt? Move on."  So it seems like if anyone is fixated on that review it appears to be you.  LOL

That's the sole reason you're here though LOL

My 23 story posts on this site prove that you again have your head planted firmly up your ass.  But I would expect nothing less from one of the former Red Pen Wielders.  I still post stories on this site on a semi-regular basis (not as often as I post to SoFurry, but I like to spend more time in the major leagues than down here in the bush leagues) so that is my main reason for still being here.  My guess is that I've actually posted more stuff here than you and Erkhyan combined, so maybe you should ask yourself if the sole reason you're here is to attack me.  LOL

But I will admit that part of the fun of being here is to bust the balls of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs that crawl out from under their rocks when I come on the forums...  Which again has nothing to do with Reiter and his review.  At this point it has a lot more to do with you and your ilk.




Yes I am still mad at him. I'm Italian, for us holding grudges is a birthright and an art form, but that actually has nothing to do with any of the original posts I've made.

See above.

Ditto


PS Just looking at your avatar, you definitely look the part of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs

Huh? It's a fox...now you really lost me. Is that fact that he's wearing glasses an indication that I'm pretentious? *sigh* Yep, you really do make me sigh that much.

The fact that he has glasses and is leaning back with a smug, pretentious self-satisfied grin on his muzzle would suggest that.  I guess your eye for art is just as bad as your eye for literature.  I'll bet you have a tin ear when it comes to music too.  Is there ANYTHING at all that you do well?  Well you are a fox... and we all know what they are talented at doing... But we can't mention that sex stuff here on this site...  LOL
« Last Edit: June 04, 2013, 09:18:10 PM by poisonpen » Logged
poisonpen
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 47


View Profile
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2013, 12:49:04 AM »

Another perfect example of the bias against erotic content on this site is exemplified by this post http://forum.furrag.com/index.php/topic,533.msg0.html#new
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.14 | SMF © 2006-2011, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!