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« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2013, 01:26:18 AM »

Hehe, you are funny. You're right, all we have in common is that we think Reiter is an asswipe. But I suspect I'm starting to sully the forums now, so I'll bow out. I'll miss arguing with you~
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« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2013, 11:33:45 AM »

*Raises Arms In Victory as he takes a victory lap*

Once again Poison>Red Ink

I don't see why you're worrying about sullying the forums, there's no one here to see it.  Which raises the philosophical question, if a fox sullies the forums and there is no one there to read it, does anybody really give a damn...
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« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2013, 01:43:03 PM »

Sorry, no. You've won nothing unless it's a certificate of validation for being a gadfly and a troll.

You have now fully admitted that your only reason for being here was to stir up trouble and irritate people.
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« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2013, 06:33:27 PM »

I KNEW IT!  I could sense the heavy hand of the Supreme Emperor and Grand Poobah of all things literary.  I didn't think Jacky would have stopped without being called off by his Overlord...  ROTFLMFAO

A Troll?  Heavens NO!  I'm much too clever to be a troll, trolls are stupid and slow witted.  At least in all the stories I've read about them they are.  But I've never met one in real life so maybe I'm rushing to judgment.  But that too would help me fit in on this site.  

Hmmm...  A gadfly...  I'll have to think about that...  Maybe something similar but sent by Calliope instead of Hera to herd this site back into line.  See I even know classical mythology so I can act pretentious too!  Does that mean I can be a Red Pen Wielder?  Oh I forgot, I eradicated the Red Pen Wielders.  LOL (Raises arms in Victory again!  Man I haven't raised my arms in victory so often since back when I was kicking ass in Track and Cross Country back in college.)

I have admitted no such thing.  I thought with you being such an accomplished writer and a librarian to boot you would have much better comprehension skills than Jacky.  Maybe it's just senility settling in on you so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.  I'll try to explain it to you s  l  o  o  o  l  y so MAYBE you'll be able to understand (but I'm not counting on it).


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Poisonpen (That would be me, just wanted to make sure you are still following this)
“My 23 story posts on this site prove that you again have your head planted firmly up your ass.  But I would expect nothing less from one of the former Red Pen Wielders.  I still post stories on this site on a semi-regular basis (not as often as I post to SoFurry, but I like to spend more time in the major leagues than down here in the bush leagues) so that is my main reason for still being here.  My guess is that I've actually posted more stuff here than you and Erkhyan combined, so maybe you should ask yourself if the sole reason you're here is to attack me.  LOL

But I will admit that part of the fun of being here is to bust the balls of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs that crawl out from under their rocks when I come on the forums...  Which again has nothing to do with Reiter and his review.  At this point it has a lot more to do with you and your ilk.”


If you parse my statement, I claim my MAIN reason for being on this site is “my 23 story posts on this site”.  I stated that very clearly so your statement “You have now fully admitted that your only reason for being here was to stir up trouble and irritate people” is a blatant misrepresentation of the facts.  (Damn I gotta be careful I'm starting to sound like a lawyer.)  

I then go on to add a secondary reason (secondary means it is of lower importance than the MAIN reason.  Am I going slow enough for you?) of  “But I will admit that part of the fun of being here is to bust the balls of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs that crawl out from under their rocks when I come on the forums...”  

Now you may believe that the secondary reason is the primary one (you would be wrong, but you're used to that by now) but your statement was that I “have now fully admitted that (my) only reason for being here was to stir up trouble and irritate people.”  And I most certainly have NOT admitted any such thing.  Your claim is FACTUALLY WRONG! I think even someone as obtuse as an Administrator can see that.

And while I DO enjoy busting “the balls of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs that crawl out from under their rocks” I don't enjoy it anywhere near as much as I enjoy discussing stories (mine and the stories of others that I have read) in the comment sections of SoFurry.  But it seems that this site has nothing even remotely resembling it, so I have to settle for ball busting.  But I guess you have to settle for that when you're in the bush leagues.
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« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2013, 09:53:09 PM »

Despite all your criticism of everyone else associated with this site, you are by far the most obnoxious person who has ever been here.

No, I did not "call Jacky off." I've been remaining quiet hoping you'd get bored and go away. Now, like Jacky, I'm done with you. You're like some politicians, you can't hear what anyone else says because you're so busy with your own obsessions. Well, you can obsess by yourself now as far as I'm concerned.
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« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2013, 03:22:47 AM »

*Holds up Most Obnoxious Trophy.  Does Victory Dance.*

I always try to be the very best at what I do, so being "by far the most obnoxious person who has ever been here" is quite the accomplishment considering how many obnoxious people have been here.

Au contraire mon ami.  I've heard everything the three of you have had to say.  I just find it to be highly inaccurate and I have to continue to point out your lapses in logic.  Even to the point of having to point out that you haven't “been remaining quiet hoping you'd get bored and go away.”  You keep coming back to stir the pot just when things are quieting down.  Are you sure you're not the Troll?
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« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2013, 10:44:11 AM »

And so in an attempt to prove that you’re not the troll, you have decided to write in the most eye-hurting color available, while delighting in managing three decidedly un-trollish feats:
– insult the regulars
– scare away the newcomers
– and lastly, declare war on a group based on a member who left years ago

Times when I wish we really were the overlords you said we were. Less than thirty years ago, my country’s leader had a kung-fu compound razed and many of its members shot for much less than what you’ve been up to. Clearly, evil overlordship is losing its fangs.
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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2013, 04:13:20 PM »

Again you guys keep ascribing actions and motives to me that I have never claimed.  You claim that I am attempting “to prove that (I'm) not the troll”.  I am attempting no such thing.  My point is to punch holes in all the faulty arguments and lapses in logic that you Red Pen Wielders, oops make that FORMER Red Pen Wielders (Pats self on back) keep throwing out there.  Maybe the problem is you are all English majors and I'm a Scientist.  They don't teach logic and analytical thinking to English majors, although in your case I guess I should say Language majors, so maybe I should be less hard on your ignorance.

you have decided to write in the most eye-hurting color available? I originally chose this color because my post to Jacky was getting too complicated.  It was then that I decided that I should post what he wrote in red because he's a RPW and since I have a poison pen I thought I would post in a nice poisonous green.  It was clearly spelled out in that post.  It is just to avoid confusion.

Insult the regulars? Of course I have insulted the regulars here, usually in response to them insulting me.  I can't help it if I am MUCH more talented in the insult department...

Scare away the newcomers? I must beg to differ on that one.  Go back and read my original response to Gallowglass.  There is nothing that I said on it that was different from what he already knew and what Jacky followed up with.  Jacky (one of the evil overlords;- ) insisted on taking a poke at me there and I defended myself.  Also Sasya is a newbie and I have not insulted him when we have interacted.

And lastly, declare war on a group based on a member who left years ago? I still don't know where you have come up with this one.  Yes I had trouble with a RPW, one of the more smug self-important ones of the group and I pretty much let that die after he hijacked my e-mail account. (although to this day Jacky will claim he didn't.  Hmm... Maybe Jacky knows that Reiter didn't do it because Jacky's the one that did it.  LOL)  It was when I found similar actions and attitudes among other RPW and Administrators that my dislike developed for them.  And really there have only been three others that I have had negative interactions with, you, Jacky and of course the Supreme Emperor and Grand Poobah of all things literary, Altivo, so maybe I shouldn't judge the whole group based on 4 individuals.  I mean there are bad apples in every barrel.  It just seems like you 3 are the only ones still active on the site and I can understand why.

And in the last paragraph the truth comes out, you wish you could kill me for voicing my opinion.  Just like every despot and dictator out there tries to bury the truth and those who speak it.  But that is nothing less than I expect from a former RPW.  ROTFLMFAO
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« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2013, 06:19:45 PM »

English major. Now that’s an accusation I haven’t heard in a looooong while Grin Know that I graduated with a Baccalauréat Scientifique, option Physique-Chimie and that the full extent of my English cursus began and ended with secondary school.

And yes, I do think that in my case, the insult came from you first. Paraphrasing, you pretty much called me a toady because I admitted that having a different opinion with someone else wasn’t enough to start a full-scale pogrom. You then went on to latch on an insignificant label appearing in a corner on the screen, and assumed that it made me part of a super-secret agenda out to get you (boy, I’ve lived under a paranoid dictator, and that felt like the good old times again).

Thirdly, Sasya might not be a regular yet because the slump in activity meant that there wasn’t much interaction between all of us, but… at least two years of presence in the forums, no trolling wars started, and a posting a story that garnered mostly positive feedback? I don’t think any of us has considered Sasya as a newcomer for a long while.

And lastly, don’t get ego boosts. I’m not wishing harm on you, I’m only pointing at the hilarious fact that you complain about abuses of authority, call us overlords and such, and yet have been able to do so without any negative consequences other than a vocal debate. Such a poor dictatorship we make!
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« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2013, 11:11:48 PM »

In honor of our new friend, I wrote a new story.  ^.^

It's erotic.

http://furrag.com/viewstory.php?sid=1806

~Foxy
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« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2013, 03:07:16 AM »

You better be careful Sasya, you're really gonna piss off the Supreme Emperor and Grand Poobah of all things literary, Altivo.  LMFAO  Grin  If I get some time I'LL try to give it a read, but I've got two chapters of different novels to finish so my fans on SoFurry don't get restless.
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« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2013, 11:40:32 AM »

Well I didn't have to try very hard to give it a read. Really liking it Sasya, can't wait for more Smiley
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« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2013, 11:50:58 AM »

*Happywags*  Thanks for reading it.  It really does mean a lot to me. ^.^ 
And there will be a part two sometime this week, if time permits.

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« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2013, 09:29:21 PM »

This is in response to Erkhyan

Very surprising, I would expect someone with a science background to have better logic and analytical skills.

Actually I just pointed out that even though you apparently disagreed with Supreme Emperor and Grand Poobah of all things literary Altivo, I had to twist your arm several times to admit you actually disagreed with his view. I didn't ask you to attack him, I was doing a good enough job of that.  LOL You can disagree with him without getting in a fight, or at least you should be able to.  If you are so sensitive that you feel that is calling you a toady then maybe you have a guilty conscience.

Actually where things got ugly was your Reply #32 on: May 22, 2013, 10:40:38 AM. Up until then I had been rather neutral with you, my main beef was with the Emperor and then with Jacky. It was you that decided to pick the fight. And being a former Marine I don't back down from fights.

And no I didn't think the RPW's had a a super-secret agenda out to get me. Get a life. I just think they are a bunch of pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs all wrapped up in their own overinflated view of their self-importance. I never was under the impression that I was anywhere near important enough to even be on your (meaning the RPW) radar. And that was my whole point about you RPWs (you in the group sense, maybe not you in the singular sense since you say you didn't write any reviews), they felt it was their right and duty to go out and abuse people any way they saw fit. They were above others and writers feelings were theirs to trample on, because they were MUCH smarter than the rest of us since they were a Red Pen Wielder. Where you ever got this other idea is completely beyond me. My problem with the RPWs was their sense of entitlement generated by a stupid sophomoric title. Even the Emperor with all his vast shortcomings admitted that the name was not a wise choice claiming he advised against it. The name gives us an insight into the mindset of the members of that group, they were the teachers with the red pens and us Newbies should have to listen attentively while they dressed us down.

All that said, you demonstrated that you guys all stick together against outsiders and present a united front even when you disagree with each other. A perfect example was your refusal to publicly disagree with Altivo even though you philosophically disagreed with him.
 

As far as you saying:  "Thirdly, Sasya might not be a regular yet because the slump in activity meant that there wasn’t much interaction between all of us, but… at least two years of presence in the forums, no trolling wars started, and a posting a story that garnered mostly positive feedback? I don’t think any of us has considered Sasya as a newcomer for a long while."

That speaks VOLUMES about this site that it has so little traffic that in two years someone who is supposedly active in the forums is still a Newbie. You guys should be thankful that I'm here now, this is the first time this forum has had a pulse in years.

I'd been here 3 years without starting any "trolling wars". I hadn't spent much time on the forums because they have basically been flat-lining since I have been a member.  My guess is that no one comes on here because opposing views are frowned upon.  Oh and I was told by Reiter to go to the forums where I would find such friendly helpful people, I should have figured that I would find people like him here.

Also if Sasya's story postings first review had been by a RPW that rudely said "you and your story suck" he might not still be here. 

And no I haven't spent much time before this on these forums, I have been too busy in the comments sections of my stories on SoFurry. My guess is that in the last two years there, the comment sections from my stories have generated more post than this whole forum combined and multiplied by a factor of ten. And there has been no as you say "trolling wars" on them, but then over on SoFurry I'm dealing with friendly regular people not a bunch of pretentious pseudo-intellectual snobs.  They are just a bunch of regular furs that like a good story.  I guess it's like the movies that draw big at the box office but get panned by the critics.  Those movie directors laugh all the way to the bank.


And in regard to your last paragraph:
And lastly, don’t get ego boosts. I’m not wishing harm on you, I’m only pointing at the hilarious fact that you complain about abuses of authority, call us overlords and such, and yet have been able to do so without any negative consequences other than a vocal debate. Such a poor dictatorship we make!

Again this just points out that you have absolutely no sense of humor. My referring to you as Overlords is sarcasm, which obviously went WAY over your head. The only one who I said abused his authority was the Emperor and even that I said was in an indirect way and of course Reiter, but you are too obtuse to understand that even after I tried to spell it out to you repeatedly.  I really think you should go in on the Genre section and remove the Humor option since no one here will understand any stories that contain humor.  Plus it isn't surprising that you RPWs and Administrators are as inept at being evil overlords as you are at everything else. *Where's the ROTFLMAO emoticon when you really need it...*
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« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2013, 09:33:30 PM »

This is in response to Jacky

I knew taking a poke at Supreme Emperor and Grand Poobah of all things literary Altivo would bring you out from under your rock to take a poke at me.  I knew you wouldn't be able to resist coming out and taking more abuse from me.

And I can understand how easy it is for you to jump on his story, since I'm sure your time and opinion are not in high demand.  I have 6 readers on SoFurry who have asked me to take a peek at their stories and give them my opinion of them.  I think if I have time to read stories I have more of a responsibility to read the stories of people who actually read mine and request my opinion before I read stories from random writers that post a general link to their story  They've read my stories, I owe them first.  When I get caught up I will try to give Sasya's story a read.

It also doesn't seem like you are very active in the writing department (unless you are posting somewhere else) so I'm sure you have TONS of time on your hands.  Do you even have a job or do you live in mommy's basement?  Do you have mommy's permission to use the computer?
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